home *** CD-ROM | disk | FTP | other *** search
- From: Lexicor@world.std.com
- Subject: Please Read {ADMIN}
- Date: Fri, 27 May 1994 23:55:09 -0400 (EDT)
- Mime-Version: 1.0
- Precedence: bulk
-
-
- Welcome to the gem-list
- =======================
-
- The following base commands are understood by Majordomo your gem-list
- automatic mailing program. Please read this.
-
- Email to: majordomo@world.std.com and with the body:
-
- subscribe gem-list <email.address> you subscribe
- unsubscribe gem-list <email.address> you unsubscribe
- who gem-list who is on the list
- info gem-list this info
-
- If you want to talk to the list-admin email either list-admin@lexicor.com
- or gem-list-admin@world.std.com
-
- About the Mailing List
- ======================
-
- This list is designed to bring together all GEM programmers in order to
- establish a 'style guide'. The first topic will be keyboard shortcuts
- standards.
-
- Once a 'style guide' is agreed, I will make sure it is published in several
- magazines, PD libraries and ftp sites. WIth a bit of luck we'll reach such
- agreement.
-
- A note from the admin
- =====================
-
- This list is a free service and I cannot warrant for anything that has been
- said in the list, I will however kindly ask that this list should not be
- filled with:
-
- 1. flames, accusations or abusive language
- 2. advertisement or forsale posts
-
- I will also kindly ask that you do not subscribe with a wrong email
- account (make sure there are no typos) that I need to approve, if a message
- get's bounced I will receive the bulk of bounced messages, and I will
- delete that person from the list if the messages bounce for longer than
- 3 days. If you are going to lose your account for whatever reason please
- unsubscribe. I will post in comp.sys.atari.st the bounced message people
- so that they may be able to get back to me if there was a mistake.
-
- There are no set rules in this gem-list other than what is considered
- standard "netiquette", I will also not tolerate any bashings on anyone
- or any company on this particular list, constructive criticism is one
- thing, destructive bashing and flaming is another.
-
- Sincerely,
-
- Yat Siu
- -ysiu@lexicor.com (list-admin for majordomo gem-list)
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Hello GEM developer,
-
- IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT FOLLOWS
-
- The GEM user interface has recently matured into a generally
- non-modal, multi-tasking environment. Thanks to many developers
- such as 2B (Mag!X), Gribnif (Geneva) and authors of many
- excellent GEM programs (mainly in Germany, but also in the US, UK
- and other countries) we now have a very nice environment to work
- with.
-
- One of the main problems for users, which have been exprssed to
- me by many users is the lack of standards, or that there are too
- many standards. It seems the German programmers have got their
- keyboard shortcuts sorted, but some of their standards contradict
- the Atari Style Guide as published in the Atari Compendium and
- the developer docs from Atari.
-
- Since Atari do not seem to be getting invloved in this area, it's
- about time that some communication started between developers
- across the globe. The Atari market is too small for too many
- systems. Both Geneva and Mag!X should maintain a high degree of
- compatibility, and authors of programs should do as much as
- possible to keep to the standards.
-
- The problem is now to agree on a standard interface, and the
- first topic I would like to discuss is the issue of keyboard
- shortcuts. I have laid out a proposal for a standard and have
- discussed it at length on CIX - the UK main BBS for ST
- users/programmers. My proposal is a PROPOSAL, I do not wish to
- dictate my ideas. I just want a standard to work to.
-
- I invite you alnog with many other developers to take part in
- this discussion. If we reach agreement, I will personally make
- sure that the standard is published in several ST magazines,
- placed on FTP sites and is also available in a printed form at a
- minimal cost to cover printing cost.
-
- Yat Siu of Lexicor has been kind enough to allow use of his
- system to start a mail list for this purpose. I have to stress
- here that Lexicor do not have any 'special' interest in this
- discussion, although I am sure Yat will want to express his
- opinions just like everyone else. I urge everyone to put
- competition aside and to join the mail list. Once we got the
- keyboard shortcuts standardised we can look at universal
- implementation of the VA_START protocol, a FAX protocol, adding
- menu items to programs (Windows style), enhanced GEM Clipboard
- and anything else we think is useful.
-
- The mail list is ready for use, once there are enough people
- subscribed I will post my keyboard shortcuts proposal and
- discussion can start. I already have incorporated some
- ammendments suggested by Wilfried Behne (Mag!X, NVDI).
-
- ==============================================================
- To join send mail to majordomo@world.std.com
-
- With the content:
-
- subscribe gem-list <email address>
-
- To send a message to the mail list use the following address:
-
- gem-list@world.std.com
- ==============================================================
-
- I look forward to your suggestions.
-
- Ofir Gal
-
-
- -------------------------------
- Ofir ogal@cix.compulink.co.uk
- -------------------------------
-
-
-
-
-